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Post by Admin on Mar 13, 2013 12:48:58 GMT -5
Use this thread to discuss concerns about salary negotiations
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Post by unamed user on Mar 13, 2013 17:16:43 GMT -5
Whatever happened to the "double Masters" line? Why was it taken out of the pervious contract?
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Post by molly1776 on Mar 13, 2013 17:52:00 GMT -5
The big problem is the 2 tier salary system - it is managment segregation. They divide the membership against one another. It is the kiss of death for everything we have ever worked for. To those who say, "its the best they could do" or "it will pass anyway" I ask is that what you want your teenagers to base their decisions on this weekend, that it is going to happen anyway, might as well follow the crowd?
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Post by guest on Mar 13, 2013 19:51:53 GMT -5
The two tier salary needs to be removed from the contract. Not only will it divide the staff, it sets the rest of up to have salary schedule "A" pulled from the contract and we will all be on salary 'B'. Administration is well aware of this. We need to stand strong.
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Post by Solidarity on Mar 14, 2013 11:09:30 GMT -5
WEAR RED TOMORROW AND EVERY FRIDAY UNTIL THIS THING IS OVER....
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Post by Guest on Mar 14, 2013 20:58:30 GMT -5
Tier A is there so upcoming retirees don't drop in pay dramatically.
Yes, it would be great if the district paid everyone on tier A. However, that level of salary can't be supported long term. They can't pay everyone at current levels or with significant accruals and maintain the same number of staff positions. That would mean layoffs, higher class sizes, and a more dramatic reduction in the future.
This isn't just a bluff by the district. It is happening in many other places. We won't be immune to that scenario unless the fiscal situation improves.
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Post by guest on Mar 14, 2013 21:36:03 GMT -5
I think the $1200 is a slap in the face to many teachers that have worked very hard to get a higher education to become better educators. I don't see how it's fair that a hall monitor, a first year para-professional, a 10th year teacher with MA and a 20 year teacher with MA+40 could be offered the same $1,200. I know that we all work hard but it's not fair to offer everyone the same blanket offer. The pay freeze is a bad idea, the skipping a step is a bad idea and the $1200 is just salt in a wound.
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Post by Community parent on Mar 17, 2013 17:37:43 GMT -5
As a parent of a Bolingbrook student I fail to see why there seems to be people asking for more money when the Patch recently put out an article on how you are a failing district. You produce some of the lowest ACT and ISAT scores in the area yet still think you deserve more money? It seems to me you don't have much of a leg to stand on.
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Post by germanicus on Mar 17, 2013 18:20:08 GMT -5
Your focus should be on bloating of Administration staff, their salaries and the awarding of 67K for Superintendent to get his credentials to run such low performing schools...If the teachers are "failing" should not their leadership be held accountable as well?
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Post by Teacher Defender on Mar 17, 2013 21:48:24 GMT -5
It's easy for people who don't work within the school setting to just passively blast teachers for failing scores. They completely neglect the fact that we are working with the curriculum the district provides. I still haven't seen a curriculum map for my preps because one doesn't exist. Not to mention, standardized test scores have been shown time and time again to be a horrible (dreadfully awful) indicator of student development, yet we continue to use them in our society as an indicator of success or failure. If I was a Bolingbrook parent, I would care less about the test scores and more about the stagnating curriculum. But, that's what happens when curriculum development is outsources (and purchased outright from testing companies). That's what happens when there is no grade level-to-grade level articulation (middle school - when was the last time you met with elementary during PD time? Middle school - when did you last meet with high school teachers during PD time?) And though I understand your concerns, parent, I think you are exaggerating a bit. Bolingbrook is not "at the bottom of the area" with ACT and ISAT scores. And it doesn't take much research to find out that Illinois - in general - is a middle-of-the-road state when we are looking at its performance on standardized exams. But, you know, it has to have something to do with Bolingbrook teachers specifically, right? Seems like an excuse to vilify us for a phenomenon that is occurring across the nation, really. nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/pdf/stt2011/2012454IL4.pdf |
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Post by Solidarity 2 on Mar 17, 2013 22:25:29 GMT -5
Not to mention all the studies that show school districts that have high parental involvement also have higher test scores. We can't just blame the teachers for low test scores. At what point do parents and administrators share the responsibility?
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Post by l on May 10, 2013 6:16:12 GMT -5
Does anyone realize that we're being asked to vote on a contract that is presented online with a slew of "Error! Bookmark not defined." [Insert Co-Curricular Schedule] and [Insert Salary Schedule]? The new agreed upon retirement benefits are not in there either. Before voting, check out pages 88 and 103.
Is it really a good idea to vote on a contract with things like salary and retirement not attached? As union members, should we trust the district to honor something we haven't seen, in writing, directly from the district? I understand that the union has attached salary schedules in emails but I'd like to see it posted somewhere official.
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