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Post by Admin on Mar 13, 2013 12:50:59 GMT -5
Use this to discuss the suggestions you have for the negotiating team or union as a whole.
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Post by guest on Mar 13, 2013 14:30:48 GMT -5
The negotiation process is a stressfull process. I do feel that there has been little communication with regard to the meetings. Also when distributing the proposed contract, there should be no reference to weather the contract should be approved. This is a personal decision and should not be influenced by the negotiation team.
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Post by Guest on Mar 13, 2013 15:01:51 GMT -5
Thank you for bringing up that Vickie said to vote for this contract proposal. It is a very personal decision, based on our needs as employees in the district. She is no longer an employee, her interests are not in our favor.
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Post by OUTSPOKEN on Mar 13, 2013 15:41:43 GMT -5
UNION LEADERS SHOULD COMMUNICATE THEIR THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS DURING CONTRACT TALKS NOT ONCE CONTRACT TALKS CONCLUDE. OUR LEADERS SEEM OUT OF TOUCH. UPDATES WERE NOT INFORMATIVE, THEY WERE VAGUE. LOSING OUR STEP WAS NEVER COMMUNICATED CLEARLY. OUR FEEDBACK WAS NEVER SOUGHT. THE ANALYSIS OF THE SURVEY WAS NOT POSTED. IT IS UNFORTUNATE THIS VENUE IS NOT THE RESULT OF OUR UNION LEADERSHIP ENCOURAGING OUR COLLABORATION AND OUR INPUT. OUR INPUT IS NOT ENCOURAGED AND WHEN WE GIVE IT WE ARE TOLD HOW TO THINK AND HOW TO VOTE. WE HAVE GOTTEN USE TO, AND EXPECT OUR ADMINISTRATIVE LEADERSHIP TO EXPLAIN HOW OUR JOB IS TO BE DONE, BUT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OUR UNION IS TO REPRESENT AND EXPRESS OUR NEEDS AND OUR THOUGHTS. I OFTEN HEAR OUR UNION LEADERS TALKING TO US ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATIONS THOUGHTS. OUR NEEDS GO WITHOUT AN OPEN DIALOGUE. OR DISCUSSION.
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Post by molly1776 on Mar 13, 2013 17:49:42 GMT -5
We made it plain in Nov. that we opposed a 2 tier salary system. If managment wouldn't take it off the table - at that point - the union should have said we are going to mediation. The first contract proposal was a disgrace, meant only to make ANYTHING look good. Our negotiating team is pathtic.
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Post by M1 on Mar 13, 2013 18:45:00 GMT -5
The next time the opportunity arises, please feel free to join the negotiation team. That way you can help them get what you feel you deserve.
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Post by Guest on Mar 13, 2013 18:58:05 GMT -5
It seems like the district is asking us to do more and more, especially with the implementation of common core. However, I feel like the are expecting overnight change, providing limited and/or poorly implemented professional development, increasing expectations, and providing less time in which to do this.
I am concerned about this time we are banking. If we actually got to use it to create engaging lessons, contact parents, and provide extra assistance to our struggling students, it wouldn't bother me. The fact that it is being left so open-ended worries me. I don't want to waste my time with more unhelpful, waste-of-time meetings and paperwork.
We are professionals, there should be something in the district about allowing us time to get our tasks completed as we see fit. I understand that some individuals take advantage of that time, but deal with that on a case-by-case basis, don't make these across-the-board changes.
Besides, what teacher arrives at the same time as the students are let in the building. They are trying to exert more control over every thing we do.
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Post by Guest HS on Mar 14, 2013 10:40:20 GMT -5
I would like there to be more transperancy in the union. Knowing what's on the table or at least seeing a plan before the negotiations start. The part that gets me is that I had no clue what they were negotiating until we got the status updates and, by then, it was looking really bad.
Why did the negotiating team even start talking when the initial offer by the district was so bad?
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Post by guest on Mar 14, 2013 10:41:43 GMT -5
the union negotiators have a hard job but when you add keeping us in the dark and then the bad contract it feels like a betrayal.
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Post by Solidarity on Mar 14, 2013 11:07:05 GMT -5
WEAR RED TOMORROW AND EVERY FRIDAY UNTIL THIS THING IS OVER...
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Post by REALLY on Mar 14, 2013 11:38:15 GMT -5
TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE WHEN YOU WIN AN ELECTION YOU DO THE BEST TO REPRESENT YOUR CONSTITUENTS. I FEEL TO TELL SOMEONE HOW TO VOTE OR THAT WE DO NOT TALK ABOUT ADMIN.'S INSURANCE IS NOT APPROPRIATE. YOU ARE WILLING TO ALLOW OTHERS TO CONTROL YOUR INTEGRITY AND THEN YOUR VALUE SYSTEM IS NOT TRUSTED.
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Post by We Are Adults on Mar 14, 2013 13:32:53 GMT -5
I think we need to recognize we are adults. We can vote how we want. Instead of mindless VOTE NO OR ELSE, we should stick to what's factual and action-able.
I agree. Dragging individual names and people through the mud is BS. Talking about where money comes from and where cuts need to happen in general is okay. It's a real concern.
Personally - I am voting no because I think we could do better. But if you were to vote yes, I am sure you have your reasons.
Just vote and be heard no matter what you feel.
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Post by respectfully on Mar 14, 2013 21:06:53 GMT -5
Thank you for bringing up that Vickie said to vote for this contract proposal. It is a very personal decision, based on our needs as employees in the district. She is no longer an employee, her interests are not in our favor. While we may not all vote the same way, this post is more reasonable than many others I have read in these threads. Just my opinion, but I read Vickie's suggestion to approve the contract as a heads up to us that things aren't going to be better if we vote no. They could get worse if we start to lose negotiating power or credibility. I have my own concerns about the union leadership, but I don't think she was being coercive or pushy. That's an overreaction in my opinion.
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Post by germanicus on Mar 15, 2013 21:00:07 GMT -5
Worker actions? First, the Union needs to lead and not leave it to the rank and file to do these "worker actions". It's their job to organize. Plus I think there's a huge gap of trust that rank and file would be backed up if such "actions" were to take place. How do we rectify such a trust-gap? Start filing grievances. Second, how about filing a damn grievance every once in while! Just one! One damn grievance! Like the condition of the building at RHS and all the painted over molded tile. The Principal may even back the Union on that one. Thirdly, stand up to the building administrators. How do you do this? File a grievance. As for winning, sometimes it's not about winning, it's about letting them know you're there. ;
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Post by Suggestion on Mar 17, 2013 17:31:08 GMT -5
Here's an idea, next time an e-mail goes out to the entire district asking for employees to be on the negotiation team, how about someone from Brooks or BHS joining instead of sitting on your hands and bitching, why don't you actually do something about it. You all seem good at suggesting other people do their job better, yet when given the opportunity you decided to do nothing. Instead of the union president and VP running unopposed maybe one of you should actually do something about it. you offer plenty of criticism yet fail to act on it.
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